Did Krugman Really Advocate a Housing Bubble in 2002?
The Econ world is abuzz with debate over this Krugman piece from 2002. Some argue that he was advocating a housing bubble, and others steadfastly defend his positions (and the pillars of Keynesian Econ). I’ll post excerpts from experts from both sides of the argument. This is shaping up to be a poignant real-world showdown between Keynesian Economists (represented by Nobel-prize winning economist Paul Krugman) and those from the Austrian School (like Mark Thornton from Mises.org). Ding, ding, ding:
Arguing that Krugman Advocated a Bubble:
Mark Thorton over at Mises.org highlights 3 quotes from this time period (2001-02) to demonstrate that Krugman did, in fact, appear to push for re-flating the tech bubble. This is the most damning, to me:
That is, I’ve always believed that a speculative bubble need not lead to a recession, as long as interest rates are cut quickly enough to stimulate alternative investments. But I had to face the fact that speculative bubbles usually are followed by recessions. My excuse has been that this was because the policy makers moved too slowly — that central banks were typically too slow to cut interest rates in the face of a burst bubble, giving the downturn time to build up a lot of momentum. That was why I, like many others, was frustrated at the smallish cut at the last Federal Open Market Committee meeting: I was pretty sure that Alan Greenspan had the tools to prevent a disastrous recession, but worried that he might be getting behind the curve.
However, let’s give credit where credit is due: Mr. Greenspan has cut rates since then. And while some of us may have been urging him to move even faster, the Fed’s four interest-rate cuts since the slowdown became apparent represent an unusually aggressive response by historical standards. It’s still not clear that Mr. Greenspan has caught up with the curve — let’s have at least one more rate cut, please — but the interest-rate cuts do, cross your fingers, seem to be having an effect.
Below is another strike against Krugman’s case (to the Austrian Econ crowd, at least). He made this comment in October 2001. There’s more, plus good commentary to be found at the original Mises.org piece:
In time this overhang will be worked off. Meanwhile, economic policy should encourage other spending to offset the temporary slump in business investment. Low interest rates, which promote spending on housing and other durable goods, are the main answer. But it seems inevitable that there will also be a fiscal stimulus package”
Seems like a pretty good argument that Krugman was pro-bubble back then. He was urging Greenspan to act “even faster”. He is advocating both low interest rates and financial stimus to get us out of the recession. He’s still banging the massive-stimuli war drum today. In the 2002 piece first mentioned, however, Krugman does appear to be hinting that Greenspan played a role in the tech-bubble. How can he note this as a negative, while simultaneously pushing for interest-rate cuts and stimuli?
After reading the various arguments, it seems that Mr. Krugman was conflicted at the time. But he saw no good alternative to re-flating. Here is the opposing argument preferred by Paul Krugman himself (he linked to it in his rebuttal).
Arguing That Krugman Did Not Advocate a Housing Bubble:
Arnold King, Econ PHD from MIT, defends the 2002 piece saying:
1. Krugman was mainly expressing pessimism. He was not cheerfully advocating a housing bubble, but instead he was glumly saying that the only way he could see to get out of the recession would be for such a bubble to occur.
2. In the event, we had a housing bubble and we got out of the recession. To me, this raises the question of whether a distorted recovery is better than an undistorted recession. That question might be asked in the context of fiscal stimulus as well–at what point do the distortions of the stimulus outweigh getting out of a recession?
3. I personally do not think that Greenspan caused the housing bubble. I do not believe that monetary policy and short-term interest rates are as all-powerful as many economists do. What I was writing in August of 2002 was this.
4. Paul Krugman and Brad DeLong thought that Greenspan kept rates too high in 2002. This makes them poorly positioned to criticize Greenspan now for keeping rates too low. I am pretty sure that Brad is guilty of this hypocrisy. I believe that Paul is not.
Was Krugman just being sarcastic? I guess it’s possible. But it’s important to note that Kling does not believe monetary policy are as powerful as economists like Paul Krugman do, and doesn’t blame Greenspan for the tech-bubble. So counting him as a strong supporter of Krugman’s overall argument is a stretch. But Kling is an MIT guy, with a PHD in Econ. So he’s a lot more book-smart than I will ever be. But the Austrian argument makes more sense to me, in this case.
Krugman also defended himself in this rebuttal, “I was on the Grassy Knoll, Too” today in the NY Times. His explanation is short, and he links to the Kling piece:
Guys, read it again. It wasn’t a piece of policy advocacy, it was just economic analysis. Update: A gracious, sensible explication from Arnold Kling.








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Here is the crucial quote. Note the emphasis at the end (it is mine.) Yes, Virginia, this is “advocacy.” read it again.
The problem with Krugman’s mental model is that it does not take into account the after-effects of the stimulus. That was the case then; as it is the case now.
“The basic point is that the recession of 2001 wasn’t a typical postwar slump, brought on when an inflation-fighting Fed raises interest rates and easily ended by a snapback in housing and consumer spending when the Fed brings rates back down again. This was a prewar-style recession, a morning after brought on by irrational exuberance. To fight this recession the Fed needs more than a snapback; it needs soaring household spending to offset moribund business investment. And to do that, as Paul McCulley of Pimco put it, Alan Greenspan NEEDS TO CREATE A HOUSING BUBBLE to replace the Nasdaq bubble.”
It’s really too bad people have decided to turn this into a “gotcha” moment. If you read the article carefully, he’s only speculating about what is in the mind of Alan Greenspan at the time. He’s not advocating a policy. In retrospect, Krugman wrote:
“Guys, read it again. It wasn’t a piece of policy advocacy, it was just economic analysis. What I said was that the only way the Fed could get traction would be if it could inflate a housing bubble. And that’s just what happened.”
In response, someone wrote on his blog:
“Let’s assume your retroactive explanation is accurate. Isn’t this an admission that the bubble was a creation of government ACTION, and not of government INACTION, and so “deregulation” isn’t to blame?”
But that’s only if you make the assumption that markets should never be regulated. Like anything else in life, regulation can be done badly and worsen the situation. For example, no one denies that errors in regulation made the Gulf Oil Spill more likely. They rewarded and punished the wrong behaviors. But this is no argument that regulation couldn’t have prevented the spill.
The best examples I know of for this are the two notorious nuclear accidents at Three Mile Island and Chernobyl. It seems the best explanation of why the first was less serious was that the American nuclear industry was regulated while the Soviet one wasn’t, or barely.
Paul Krugman is a very clever writer. Why does he get so much flack. Well, I’ll tell you why…..
He creates “back door escape hatches” in his articles so when he’s wrong he can escape through them either by saying.. “Oh no no no no.. that’s not what I meant.” Or he speaks 1/2 truths on events trying to make a point while trashing someone else.
He leads his readers down a certain path…. comes to a fork in the road and is somewhat pointed in the path to the left and assume that must be the path that he is to take but Krugman doesn’t tell the reader everything so the reader follows along the path to the left. (but the ultimate truth is actually to the right) At that point it’s dishonest to say that it wasn’t His fault if the reader comes to a certain conclusion.
Case in point: Readers of Krugman’s “Free to Die” article led those who read the article to falsely assume Ron Paul, presidential candidate, answered “yes” to the hypothetical question of the 30 year old man with no health insurance should be allowed to die.
Krugman DID NOT and I repeat DID NOT tell his readers that Ron Paul said “NO!” HE LEFT IT OUT!!!!
Instead, he said that Audience members screamed “YES!”
What resulted from that Free to Die article that Krugman wrote? I bet you can imagine.
yep! Social Network sites went viral with this story and everyone BELIEVED that Ron Paul said that he would let the 30 year that had no insurance die. That’s what republicans are all about right?
Oh, like Krugman, I failed to mention that the 30 year old with no insurance (which everyone assumed was poor and couldn’t afford it right?) Actually had a good job with good pay but the dummy decided on his own that he didn’t want to get insurance. he could afford it but simply chose not to get it. HIS choice right? It’s a bad choice but it was his. That’s why Ron Paul was trying to say. It’s his choice not to buy the insurance but it shouldn’t be up to the government and it’s a false premise that the guy would die because there are hospitals that do help people who can’t afford to pay.
So Ron Paul’s actual answer was that NO, he would NOT let the 30 year old person die and he actually means this because he is an actual medical DR. who never turned anyone away when they couldn’t pay.
Here is a fantastic article that disects Paul Krugman’s Free to Die article and how he misleads readers to come to his conclusion while leaving out facts. It’s great. (much better job than I could ever do).
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2011/09/17/paul-krugman-vs-ron-paul-and-friedrich-hayek/